Niro PHEV on order

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niroal
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Niro PHEV on order

Post by niroal » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:44 am

My status has changed from a looker to a physical order. We should have our Graphite PHEV by the end of the month so the wait is on!


JimT
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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by JimT » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:36 pm

Congratulations. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Steve
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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by Steve » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:58 pm

There is a Niro PHEV 3 , in white pearl ( Demo) for sale on ebay at a price of £21.995 , registered October 2017 with 4999 miles on the clock .... And they cost £28.000 on the road after PiCG .... So in just 1 and a half months , its lost £6, 005 ... And yet the Niro HEV 2 and 3 are fetching a similar price for the same year , but cost a lot less when new ..... Interesting

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KIA-NIRO-1-6 ... SwzppZ~on-
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niroal
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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by niroal » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:32 pm

Thanks Jim, I am getting excited now, looking at accessories etc!!

Steve as it is a demo I assume the dealer will have to hold it for at least 3 months so the loss is not quite as bad as that, but still pretty severe.


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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by h2onorth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:13 am

Hi guys. Yes the pricing of phev is interesting, at its new price it's hard to justify but around 21 k its more of a possible.
Over the next 2 years phev and ev cars are expected to align themselves price wise with IC cars so watch this space.
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niroal
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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by niroal » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:11 pm

Personally I can't see PHEV prices aligning with ICE prices as you are effectively paying for 2 powerplants.


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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by Suman » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:48 am

I don't see the economic benefits of the PHEV at list price to be honest. Even if you charged and used the maximum range every day, that's 365 x 30 miles - 10950 miles a year on battery power.

Given that electric power works out at around 2p a mile and the regular HEV at 60mpg works out at around 9p a mile, you're saving 7p a mile over 10950 miles.

This is a maximum fuel saving of only £766.50 a year over the Niro 2 - completely outweighed by the additional purchase price and the cost of fitting a charging wallbox.
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niroal
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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by niroal » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:33 pm

Suman wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:48 am
I don't see the economic benefits of the PHEV at list price to be honest. Even if you charged and used the maximum range every day, that's 365 x 30 miles - 10950 miles a year on battery power.

Given that electric power works out at around 2p a mile and the regular HEV at 60mpg works out at around 9p a mile, you're saving 7p a mile over 10950 miles.

This is a maximum fuel saving of only £766.50 a year over the Niro 2 - completely outweighed by the additional purchase price and the cost of fitting a charging wallbox.
The PHEV is 3 spec with ADAP included so compared to a 3 so equipped it is £2510 extra for the PHEV. The PHEV on retail sales includes a wallbox so there is no extra cost for that.

As an aside, I've just put the same £5350 deposit on a 3 year PCP scheme for the PHEV & a 3 with ADAP and the PHEV is £50 a month more so slightly less than the £766.50 max use.

To break even you have to do 714 miles a month which is a full charge used 20 days a month if you do get 36 miles range. If you go to London the 29g/km means free congestion charge.

Mine is leased on personal contract hire & the difference is less than £20 a month from memory, but I don't get a wallbox, but as our other car is a full electric Zoe we already have a compatible wallbox. If you don't have one they are around £275 after the OLEV grant.

However the more powerful motor makes the PHEV much perkier off the line than the standard HEV so it is not just the economic savings


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Re: Niro PHEV on order

Post by niroal » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:34 am

I am collecting the car first thing Wednesday so not long to wait now!!


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