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jerrytaff
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Post by jerrytaff » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:50 pm

I'm on the verge of ordering a Niro. Wavering between the PHEV and the 3 or 4 with down-sized wheels.
What is the difference in performance with the larger electric motor in real-world driving terms?
I'm currently driving a DS5 with a 2 litre turbo diesel , but am about to retire and want to downsize - the DS5 is a bit wide and difficult to park but very relaxed on the motorway. I'm looking for something economical, slightly smaller (narrower), better around town, better visibility, but still relaxed on the motorway, as I expect to be doing a lot more town driving, interspersed with longer touring holidays. That really suggests 2 different types of car. The Niro seems to represent a decent compromise

I have test driven the 2 and the PHEV, and found the PHEV to be significantly more comfortable - both I and my better half have back, neck, and shoulder problems so the comfort is very important. I'm not sure how much of the difference between the two models is due to the leather seats, how much is due to the better rear suspension compared with the 2, and how much is due to the extra battery weight.

Ideally I would go for the PHEV with blind spot indicators (except that you cannot order any extras with the PHEV - WHY???) - I have really found them useful in the DS5 - but that's possibly because visibility is so poor. I'm unlikely to do more than 8k miles a year, so the fuel savings on the PHEV over the 3 or 4 won't be enormous; and of course the government grant narrows the cost between the PHEV and the 4 significantly. So the choice I'm going to make is going to be more on performance, comfort, bells and whistles, than anything.

Any thoughts as to which way I should jump and are there any big pitfalls I need to be aware of?
Proud new owner of 2018 PHEV 3 in Gravity Blue :D
Previous DS (formerly Citroen) DS5 Prestige BlueHDi S/S Auto 2.0, Jaguar X type 2.0 S Diesel


tonybkent
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Re: Hello

Post by tonybkent » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:38 pm

Hi Jerry - welcome. As a PHEV owner, I'm naturally going to say go for the PHEV. I test drove the non-plug-in and the PHEV on the same day, and to be honest I really just wanted to PHEV anyway so didn't really notice any real difference with the comfort.

I have to say the Niro PHEV is the best car I've driven in 30 years of driving "normal" cars; partly due to technology improving of course. I've done just over 2,000 miles in the last three months and it really is comfortable and full of the gadgets I wanted such as Android Auto, Lane Keep Assist, Adaptive Cruise control, and some extras I wasn't expecting like heated seats and heated steering wheel.

I started with a full tank of fuel from the dealer and have only paid for £25 of petrol since. I've got 119 miles estimated petrol range left today and 1,200 miles since my last fill-up. That's obviously going to vary depending on your journey lengths, but I've genuinely had 10 miles battery range left after 27 miles driving! Admittedly I was stuck in slow traffic for a while, but regen braking must have done a good job that day! Mostly though I get 32-33 miles from the 36 range when fully charged.

My current average MPG is showing as 475!!! (See attached photo).

Visibility is very good and I really like having all the sensors for parking front, rear and side as well as the camera of course.

It's a real joy to drive and my kids love it when I turn up to pick up their mates with a car that hums like an HS1 rather than belching diesel like my old one. :-)

I only wish I could have waited for the eNiro. With 250-300 mile range, that'd have suited me perfectly.

Good luck with whatever choice you make.

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jerrytaff
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Re: Hello

Post by jerrytaff » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:01 pm

Thanks Tony,
Your observations re the PHEV are not inconsistent with mine from two reasonably lengthy test drives. My test of a 2 was much shorter but it seemed to crash over the imperfections in the road a lot more, and I couldn't get the seat comfortable.

That MPG display in your attachment is quite impressive. I've calculated the car's long term MPG from the info you gave and it seems to be about 140-150 mpg. Still impressive, but you would need to do a much higher mileage than the 8k a year you are currently doing to recoup the extra cost of the PHEV.

However, I've bitten the bullet and bought one... I was considering new but in the end I went for the demonstrator I took for the spin. 6 months old, under 2k miles on the clock, and at a price (including trade-in of my DS5) which isn't too shabby.

I'm in Watford, almost equidistant between the dealers in Chipperfield and Eastcote. Does anyone have experience of either when it comes to servicing?
Proud new owner of 2018 PHEV 3 in Gravity Blue :D
Previous DS (formerly Citroen) DS5 Prestige BlueHDi S/S Auto 2.0, Jaguar X type 2.0 S Diesel


wpandyr7
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Re: Hello

Post by wpandyr7 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:13 pm

That is amazing fuel consumption, my Niro 4 HEV is only as good as an modern 2L diesel, around 55- 60 mpg. :(

I also find the ride rather hard.

Rod


jerrytaff
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Re: Hello

Post by jerrytaff » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:53 pm

I received my PHEV just a couple of days ago It was handed over without any electric charge (the dealer's charge point was out of action due to major on-site building works - so he had an excuse.). It averaged 58.9 MPG according to the trip computer while I drove it home. Since then I've recharged it and driven 30 miles without using any petrol at all. Passengers find it very comfortable. Still getting to grips with all the electronic aids and displays.
Proud new owner of 2018 PHEV 3 in Gravity Blue :D
Previous DS (formerly Citroen) DS5 Prestige BlueHDi S/S Auto 2.0, Jaguar X type 2.0 S Diesel


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