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Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:35 pm
by Greenman
Wasn’t a particularly severe Winter and noticed no trouble at all, but with all that weight at the front and the low down torque of an electric motor you would expect good traction.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:32 am
by T552
If they are 16" id buy them off you if you change. I'm happy with mine.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:18 pm
by deguy
Now it's winter, I have different tyres on (Dunlop Winter Sport 5 205/50 R17 M+S), but we had some heavy snow falling last night and it's the first time I've driven the Niro on uncleared roads. I thought of this thread as the front of the car continually let go quite easily whilst cornering (particularly roundabouts, even at low speed and without braking in the corner). Subjectively I had to take it much easier than in my old Merc (Pirelli Sottozero Winter 210 Serie II MO 205/55 R16), even though I felt I had good grip when only lightly turning the wheel. It will probably be another 3 years before I change my winter tyres, so I won't have much chance of a comparison.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:42 pm
by Derekhandforth
I am changing my Qashqai to a Niro 2 1st Feb. My Qashqai came with Michelin Energy Savers and I was only getting 10,000 miles out of a front pair, which is terrible. Manufactures put these on to give their adverts the best MPG. I changed to Toyo tyres which gave 15,000.
Gone are the days when I was a student 40 years ago when my Mini front tyres gave 20,000!!!

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:52 pm
by T552
Energy savers on my Ceed lasted 40k miles front and rear. I was well happy with them, and lasting well on my Niro too.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:45 am
by Biggeege
the Michelin Pilot sport 4 that come on the 18" niro 3 and 4 upgraded wheels are rated as the best road tyre you can buy.

The energy tyres on the 16" are the ones people will be saying loose grip as they are skinny and low resistance tyres.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:00 pm
by jerrytaff
Hi Biggeege. I just wondered what made you reply to a thread which had been quiet since last May?

I think that the consensus amongst Niro owners is that the motoring press went a bit OTT when it came to criticising the car for grip and performance. It seems perfectly adequate for most of us. I certainly haven't noticed any issues over with my PHEV with its 16" Michelin Energy Savers. That might just be down to the way I drive. So far my PHEV has only done 5k miles, so far too soon to tell what the road holding will be like on the Energy Savers when worn, but the journalists would have had brand new tyres, and I wonder how hard they had to try to make the car lose grip.

I would expect the 18" Pilot Sports to give additional grip, but that comes at the expense of rolling resistance and reduced fuel economy. My Jag X type was fitted with Pirelli P Zeros when new. When they needed replacing the lease company insisted I got Pilots fitted . I found the Pilots lost grip hand over fist in the winter when a bit worn; the tyre characteristics seemed to change completely when the temperature dropped below about 5 deg c. On one occasion, when there was a light dusting of snow, when I found the Jag sliding all over the place, I took it into the local tyre depot. They were reluctant to change the rubber because it was a company l car and there was too much tread left for the leasing company to reimburse them. I bought the car when the lease expired, and changed to tyres to Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetricals which were quieter, gave more consistent behaviour over temperature, and also gave improved fuel economy than the Pilots, and gave a much better ride than the Pirellis. So when you say that the "Michelin Pilot sport 4 that come on the 18" niro 3 and 4 upgraded wheels are rated as the best road tyre you can buy", I wonder who gave them that rating. Certainly not me!

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:48 pm
by janesdsg
Had my front tyres changed last week (nearly 24k done) and went for Michelin Cross Climates. Noticeably quieter in the cabin.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:13 am
by Fields
Yeah, YouTube reviewers quite often don't really know what they're talking about. Make sure you only listen to and watch trusted reviewers, nowadays any old twit with a video camera thinks they're some big time reviewer.

Re: OEM Tyres

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:58 pm
by jerrytaff
Fields wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 8:13 am Yeah, YouTube reviewers quite often don't really know what they're talking about. Make sure you only listen to and watch trusted reviewers, nowadays any old twit with a video camera thinks they're some big time reviewer.
So who would you trust?

Unfortunately its not just old twits with video cameras. It is also young twits writing for the mainstream specialist mags. For example, What Car state
The economy-orientated tyres fitted to our test car's 16in wheels run out of grip pretty quickly, and the steering isn't exactly full of feel.
Autocar states
On the 16in wheels and Michelin Energy Saver tyres that most Niros sold in the UK will come with, the car has limited reserves of outright grip,
and
Kia’s electromechanical power steering set-up produces quite heavy, muted steering feel. It’s moderately direct and weights up as cornering forces rise but ultimately does little to entice you into the driving experience or tell you when those front contact patches are running short of grip.
The car’s adhesive limits are pretty modest, too....
It seems to me that other than the long term tests, the journalists don't have the car they are reviewing for long enough to get to know it. The number of factual errors they make are unacceptable, and they really cannot be relied upon when deciding what to buy.